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Galen Gareis — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 02:15:14 +0000

Everyone is having fun with improvements!

I’ve had my CLX since 2013, and what they do is REALLY, REALLY GOOD. But physics is as physics does. The stereo BF212 subs extend the deep bass crossed-over at 65Hz in my system. I use the ARC EQ, but set the cross-over point and level myself.

Here is the rub, the CLX sill use the electrostatic panels down to the subs @ 65 Hz. The POWER in the bass is well above the 65 Hz bass region, and relies on the bass panels to get that air moving HARD. They can’t. We have the “reach" in frequency but not the POWER or propulsion in the bass.

Consider the CWT 1000-40, a electrostatic hybrid design that indeed and the bass power but have the opposite issue, the incredible microdynamic detail of the CLX where they do work. They are dynamic driver good but nothing seems to touch the Martin Logans in extreme detail and dynamics mids on up.

Right now, I decided to stick with what I know, that Martin Logan strength of the mids on up, and look at the more capable Renaissance ESL15A to fill-in the bass. The dual 12 inch powered subs are 500 watts each, and run up to 300 Hz and into that bass POWER arena. The electrostatic panels are left to do what they do well…mids on up and can handle 700 watts! The CLX are limited to 200 watts, and play plenty loud but the bass dynamics are managed tighter for sure. Bass power on even the 11A’s was superb because it was a dynamic driver doing it. Use each section with the proper drivers that naturally work where placed.

So I’m thinking of getting the ESL15A’s to round out my reactive impedance load speakers. The T+A CWT 1000-40 are still perfect for the dynamic driver less reactive load. No changes there.

The last issue, when I auditioned the ESL11A on hand, the sound was well off what I know the 11A should be doing. I brought my 10 foot ICONOCLAST TPC series II speaker cables I use on the CLX and we inserted those into the chain. Viola! What a difference it made. I was startled yet again at the cable’s capabilities.

I take for granted how good the product is, and yet again I was put back on my heals how well the science that ICONOCLAST follows has made a superb cable for everyone and at a price far, far cheaper than alternatives. I want to say thank to those that audition our products and again, I think we REALLY, REALLY are a true benefit for you. They sure are for me as I found out again.

Best to all having fun with improvements!

Galen Gareis

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